I have another question,. Would you go to a gay birthday party ! I would not. I have friend “Christian” who did go with his wife.

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Most everyone here who has expressed that they would not attend a gay wedding, struggles with this because they love and have a valued relationship with that person. They are not shunning them, as Christ did not shun “beggars and whores”. But when Christ saved the adulterous woman from stoning, he said to her “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.” He didn’t tell her that the law was no longer in place. Nor that what she had done hadn’t been a sin. He loved her and forgave her, but did not condone what she had done. If she had asked for His blessing to return to the man she had committed adultery with, do you expect He would have obliged her?

@Yannick, who said: “you don’t seem to perceive that this life style is the only way for a gay person to live happily in the end.”

Having those sorts of sexual inclinations is no doubt a terrible burden. But if we all agreed that faithfulness to any one person is always the right thing (Gay or straight), what would you say to the individual who finds him-or-herself constantly attracted to different people they meet and commit adultery because they just cannot be satisfied with their spouse? Where does one draw a line in the sand as to which instincts and desires ought to be fought against and which ought to be accepted?

It would be nearly impossible, and the choice would ultimately be arbitrary. Thankfully, we have been given a guide.

“And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.”

We are all sinners. And we all have faults and vices. We should never stop striving to overcome them and simply accept them as “Who we are”.

Here’s the problem…those of us who have been so moved by Christ’s love and teachings – have changed lives. For years as a young person, I went through the “religious motions” of what I thought a Christian person was supposed to do, all the time having a great time sinning carelessly. And then, I got it. It’s a lengthy story, so I can’t tell it all here, but I came to a realization of what a follower of Jesus is really like. I started reading the Bible and all kinds of crazy stuff. Jesus became ‘personal’ to me. I changed profoundly.

So here’s what I’m getting at. Those of us who have gone through the same thing, have seen in their own lives what Jesus can do for people. We have seen how God gives us a new kind of power to fight sin in our lives (not that we EVER become sinless, far from it!), but we now understand Jesus’ words of truth. We have seen first hand, that with Jesus in our lives – all things can be made new and right; and we start seeing the power of love working throughout all aspects of our life. (Lord knows, literally, we are all a work in progress!) What we have, we want for others – IF we truly love and care about people.

Now, I know this “Jesus can change you” stuff sounds ridiculous to people who don’t know Christ. “Sure – He healed a man of leprosy, but He can’t possibly change a homosexual today.” I understand that thinking, because I once thought that too, but I see it all differently now. Jesus’ power is the same today as it was 2,000 years ago.

What we Christians need to do a better job at, is rather than going around and telling others to “stop sinning, ‘cause you’re worse off than ME” – is to start showing others how Jesus’ love can truly transform lives by modeling it ourselves.

So Yannick, when you say, “but you don’t seem to perceive that this life style is the only way for a gay person to live happily in the end,” I can’t help but say, “But there really IS another way – with Jesus in your life – and it is so, so much better.”

Therein lies the friction between real Christians (as opposed to ones just going through the motions) and non-believers.

And I believe it can all start for others, as it did for me many years ago; by simply, but sincerely, asking God to make himself real in their life. Then be ready for the crazy, wonderful, and sometimes difficult things, that start to happen!
I hope this made sense. ☺

When he told my parents he was gay (I knew long before my parents did), my parents freaked out and out right told him I don’t want my son to be gay! They didn’t talk for about 6 months. It was a really tough 6 months, since I became the moderator and helped both sides understand each other Eventually my parents learned how to communicate better, and learned to love my brother and at the same time hating the sin.

Now my brother is getting married, and we don’t know where to draw the line. Even though we don’t support it, do we go to the wedding anyway? I fear that if we don’t go it would severely ruin our relationship with my dear brother, and I would no longer be able to be an influence in his life for Christ. Right now I know for a fact that he isn’t ready to hear truth, but that doesn’t mean later down the line he wont be ready and I want to be there for him.

How do you weigh the greater of 2 evils? Both choices will end in heart ache.

This might be one of those gray areas in the christian faith where the answer comes only from the power of the holy spirit and convicts you to know the answer.

Finally love is not a license to just accept everything that comes our way. If that was the case, parents would never discipline their children but just accept every behavior they demonstrate. Well sadly some do but a parent who truly loves their child will discipline then when they are wrong.

JESUS is the new covenant and those old rules don’t matter anymore. JESUS never says anything about being gay. He commands that you love everyone and not judge.

Leviticus 18:22
Leviticus 20:13
Romans 1:26-27
1 Corinthians 6:9-10

Whether they claim to be Christians, are sorry for their fornicating ways, think now that it was wrong or whatever else doesn’t change the fact that they have now corrected a sin in that they are no longer committing it.

Two gay people on the other hand are not correcting a wrong but rather continuing in it.