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	<title>Comments on: Why The &#8216;I Was Born Gay&#8217; Argument Is So Wrong</title>
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		<title>By: Glo</title>
		<link>http://www.jesussite.com/blog/2008/08/why-the-i-was-born-gay-argument-is-so-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-633</link>
		<dc:creator>Glo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not believe that you are born gay,I believe it is a choice. Whether you were raised with all woman as a man, or you lacked a father figure you were malested or any other life changing event. Some will say they had a perfect life, and something changed being a christian who prays for my family daily and cover my children and family and friends in the blood of jesus daily, are you fully protecting your young against the demonic attacks of (satan) he will attack the young in order to obtain them for his kingdom, if my son came to me saying he was gave, I would still love him, but I can say that I could never accept that, knowing it is a sin. To think of never seeing my son in the kingdom of heaven, my heart could never take. I would pray and go into warfare for my son or daughters. The bible says ask of God and you shall recieve, I would ask God to bind that unclean spirit and cast it away. I know God can do all things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not believe that you are born gay,I believe it is a choice. Whether you were raised with all woman as a man, or you lacked a father figure you were malested or any other life changing event. Some will say they had a perfect life, and something changed being a christian who prays for my family daily and cover my children and family and friends in the blood of jesus daily, are you fully protecting your young against the demonic attacks of (satan) he will attack the young in order to obtain them for his kingdom, if my son came to me saying he was gave, I would still love him, but I can say that I could never accept that, knowing it is a sin. To think of never seeing my son in the kingdom of heaven, my heart could never take. I would pray and go into warfare for my son or daughters. The bible says ask of God and you shall recieve, I would ask God to bind that unclean spirit and cast it away. I know God can do all things.</p>
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		<title>By: Ty Wallace</title>
		<link>http://www.jesussite.com/blog/2008/08/why-the-i-was-born-gay-argument-is-so-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-491</link>
		<dc:creator>Ty Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Colton Smith - Your argument is based completely on the &quot;assumption&quot; that all gays feel like outcasts. Not all do, in fact many are quite proud. And you might want to open up yours eyes and have a look around because the world in general is pretty accepting of gays these days. It is now actually &quot;popular&quot; to be gay which in all reality is just another sign that our world is moving further and further away from a holy God.

As far as scientific evidence, you might be interested in http://cwnewz.com/content/view/760/2/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Colton Smith &#8211; Your argument is based completely on the &#8220;assumption&#8221; that all gays feel like outcasts. Not all do, in fact many are quite proud. And you might want to open up yours eyes and have a look around because the world in general is pretty accepting of gays these days. It is now actually &#8220;popular&#8221; to be gay which in all reality is just another sign that our world is moving further and further away from a holy God.</p>
<p>As far as scientific evidence, you might be interested in <a href="http://cwnewz.com/content/view/760/2/" rel="nofollow">http://cwnewz.com/content/view/760/2/</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Colton Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.jesussite.com/blog/2008/08/why-the-i-was-born-gay-argument-is-so-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>Colton Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you for real? You cannot argue about a topic like this and only use biblical evidence. That is dumber than saying people do not have scientific evidence proving that people are born gay. You think homosexuals chose to be gay? Where in anyones life has someone wanted to feel like an outcast and not wanted? Never! People dont want to be different! I have a gay uncle, a gay cousin, and a gay brother on one side of my family tell me how people do not see how this is not genetic. I have spoke to my brother about this issue and he has known he was &quot;different&quot; since junior high. He waited to come out till after high school because he was afraid of ridicule. 

When you get actual evidence then you might have an argument, but at the moment this article is pointless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you for real? You cannot argue about a topic like this and only use biblical evidence. That is dumber than saying people do not have scientific evidence proving that people are born gay. You think homosexuals chose to be gay? Where in anyones life has someone wanted to feel like an outcast and not wanted? Never! People dont want to be different! I have a gay uncle, a gay cousin, and a gay brother on one side of my family tell me how people do not see how this is not genetic. I have spoke to my brother about this issue and he has known he was &#8220;different&#8221; since junior high. He waited to come out till after high school because he was afraid of ridicule. </p>
<p>When you get actual evidence then you might have an argument, but at the moment this article is pointless.</p>
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		<title>By: amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 03:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Jeff
I know that God NEVER attacks anyone. People are being attacked by satan with temptations and certain feelings. And God CAN change your son. If you keep on asking and you truly believe that God can do anything including changing your son, then it WILL happen. It might not happen right away but it WILL happen sometime, and sometimes we don&#039;t always understand why He sometimes doesn&#039;t change things right away but He does have reasons that is sometimes beyond our comprehension. But never ever even think that your son was born gay (I&#039;m not saying you do) because that&#039;s definitely not what God intended. And NEVER EVER give up on asking God to change your son. 

I met a girl from India who didn&#039;t know God and used to have a Christian neighbor who tried to tell them about Jesus and what He did for us. They didn&#039;t really listen though. Then their neighbors had to move. 10 years later, the girl learned about Jesus in a Taxi and became a Christian and she came back to her parents and talked about how she got saved and then saved her family, except her father, who strictly didn&#039;t believe it. But then, one night, he had a dream with Jesus in it. I don&#039;t really remember all that happened in the dream but he KNEW that Jesus was real and that He loved him and got saved. A few days later, they met their old Christian neighbor from 10 years ago and told them how they got saved. He said that he had been praying EVERYDAY for 10 years that God would show up in their lives. God can do ANYTHING including changing your son. Never give up. The most important thing of all is never underestimate the power of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Jeff<br />
I know that God NEVER attacks anyone. People are being attacked by satan with temptations and certain feelings. And God CAN change your son. If you keep on asking and you truly believe that God can do anything including changing your son, then it WILL happen. It might not happen right away but it WILL happen sometime, and sometimes we don&#8217;t always understand why He sometimes doesn&#8217;t change things right away but He does have reasons that is sometimes beyond our comprehension. But never ever even think that your son was born gay (I&#8217;m not saying you do) because that&#8217;s definitely not what God intended. And NEVER EVER give up on asking God to change your son. </p>
<p>I met a girl from India who didn&#8217;t know God and used to have a Christian neighbor who tried to tell them about Jesus and what He did for us. They didn&#8217;t really listen though. Then their neighbors had to move. 10 years later, the girl learned about Jesus in a Taxi and became a Christian and she came back to her parents and talked about how she got saved and then saved her family, except her father, who strictly didn&#8217;t believe it. But then, one night, he had a dream with Jesus in it. I don&#8217;t really remember all that happened in the dream but he KNEW that Jesus was real and that He loved him and got saved. A few days later, they met their old Christian neighbor from 10 years ago and told them how they got saved. He said that he had been praying EVERYDAY for 10 years that God would show up in their lives. God can do ANYTHING including changing your son. Never give up. The most important thing of all is never underestimate the power of God.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have come to the point where I DO agree with both opinions, or maybe I am so twisted and confused :(

I had a father figure, never a motherly one. He was though and manly but I the age of 7 I fell attracted to my friend (boy) and did not know what it meant. I wanted to kill myself because, yes, close minded Christians persecuted me. I have begged God to change me, I have read article after article trying to find out what is going on with me. I love God, I don&#039;t want to go to hell.

I do not plan to engage in gay sexual activities because honestly NO that is not meant to be;

My opinion: Being gay is not a sin because YES I was born that way, having sex with a man I believe is a sin, I agree.

I hope God forgives me if I have said something that was offensive to any one in any way. I just need answers that I cannot find with peers or family since I am still what society calls &quot;closeted&quot;.

Thank You</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have come to the point where I DO agree with both opinions, or maybe I am so twisted and confused <img src='http://www.jesussite.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I had a father figure, never a motherly one. He was though and manly but I the age of 7 I fell attracted to my friend (boy) and did not know what it meant. I wanted to kill myself because, yes, close minded Christians persecuted me. I have begged God to change me, I have read article after article trying to find out what is going on with me. I love God, I don&#8217;t want to go to hell.</p>
<p>I do not plan to engage in gay sexual activities because honestly NO that is not meant to be;</p>
<p>My opinion: Being gay is not a sin because YES I was born that way, having sex with a man I believe is a sin, I agree.</p>
<p>I hope God forgives me if I have said something that was offensive to any one in any way. I just need answers that I cannot find with peers or family since I am still what society calls &#8220;closeted&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thank You</p>
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		<title>By: Ty Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ty Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 05:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Adele Merri - You wrote, &quot;I dont belive gods intention was ever to have his work interpeted so recklessly by narrow minded fools.&quot;

Interesting your use of the word &quot;narrow&quot; as if that was a bad thing to associate with Christianity and a follower of Jesus Christ.

May I remind you of Matthew 7:13-14 (Jesus own words) -

&lt;blockquote&gt;13.&quot;Enter through the &lt;strong&gt;narrow&lt;/strong&gt; gate ; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.

14.&quot;For the gate is small and the way is &lt;strong&gt;narrow&lt;/strong&gt; that leads to life, and there are few who find it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So yes, I guess I am narrow minded, at least in scenarios where something does not align itself with what God&#039;s Word says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adele Merri &#8211; You wrote, &#8220;I dont belive gods intention was ever to have his work interpeted so recklessly by narrow minded fools.&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting your use of the word &#8220;narrow&#8221; as if that was a bad thing to associate with Christianity and a follower of Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>May I remind you of Matthew 7:13-14 (Jesus own words) -</p>
<blockquote><p>13.&#8221;Enter through the <strong>narrow</strong> gate ; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.</p>
<p>14.&#8221;For the gate is small and the way is <strong>narrow</strong> that leads to life, and there are few who find it.</p></blockquote>
<p>So yes, I guess I am narrow minded, at least in scenarios where something does not align itself with what God&#8217;s Word says.</p>
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		<title>By: Adele Merri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adele Merri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was browsing for opinions on the born gay theory to try and gauge its politcal effectivness for a research paper. I have to say this is the most terrible, intolerant article I have read so far, and belive me I have read many. The author of this should be ashamed of his/her work. God is love, acceptance, tolerance and patience. Some people like carrots and some dont, thats life. I dont belive gods intention was ever to have his work interpeted so recklessly by narrow minded fools. Twenty years from now your faces will redden with shame just as those who participated in the nazi regime eugenics program. People wonder why faith has no following these days, why so many stray from god. You have your answer listed above. You speak of Satan when he is clearly living in your own heart. Open your minds and open your hearts.

- Adele Merri
straight, practicing christian and active member in the GLBT community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was browsing for opinions on the born gay theory to try and gauge its politcal effectivness for a research paper. I have to say this is the most terrible, intolerant article I have read so far, and belive me I have read many. The author of this should be ashamed of his/her work. God is love, acceptance, tolerance and patience. Some people like carrots and some dont, thats life. I dont belive gods intention was ever to have his work interpeted so recklessly by narrow minded fools. Twenty years from now your faces will redden with shame just as those who participated in the nazi regime eugenics program. People wonder why faith has no following these days, why so many stray from god. You have your answer listed above. You speak of Satan when he is clearly living in your own heart. Open your minds and open your hearts.</p>
<p>- Adele Merri<br />
straight, practicing christian and active member in the GLBT community.</p>
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		<title>By: David Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jeff - You say your son at age 6 decided he was gay or had gay inclinations? How old is he now and has he actually engaged in gay sexual relations?

Reason I ask is because I recently came across a young man of about 20 years of age who felt he was gay, even came out on YouTube announcing he was a gay Christian. Come to find out that he had yet to engage in any gay sexual relations - he only felt that he&#039;d prefer men over women.

Furthermore I discovered that his biological father was completely absent throughout his entire life and that he was was raised by his grandparents, his grandfather being mostly distant and hands off.

He therefore lacked any type of a father figure while growing up which is why he now has such a craving for male affection. At some point, he will have to choose whether to act upon what he is currently feeling. Hopefully he can form healthy male relationships without the need for sexual relations with them.

That being said, children can have inclinations towards homosexuality for many reasons. Many homosexuals I have met for example were sexually molested as children. They could have also lacked any type of a father figure in their life. One must also remember that there is a real enemy out there (Satan) who works day and night to keep people away from God and in bondage to some type of sin.

So Jeff, to succumb to the idea that your son maybe should have been born a daughter instead of a son is just wrong thinking. There can be so many other reasons for your son&#039;s homosexuality besides the &quot;I was born gay&quot; argument which I think I have demonstrated pretty well in the original post above is faulty thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jeff &#8211; You say your son at age 6 decided he was gay or had gay inclinations? How old is he now and has he actually engaged in gay sexual relations?</p>
<p>Reason I ask is because I recently came across a young man of about 20 years of age who felt he was gay, even came out on YouTube announcing he was a gay Christian. Come to find out that he had yet to engage in any gay sexual relations &#8211; he only felt that he&#8217;d prefer men over women.</p>
<p>Furthermore I discovered that his biological father was completely absent throughout his entire life and that he was was raised by his grandparents, his grandfather being mostly distant and hands off.</p>
<p>He therefore lacked any type of a father figure while growing up which is why he now has such a craving for male affection. At some point, he will have to choose whether to act upon what he is currently feeling. Hopefully he can form healthy male relationships without the need for sexual relations with them.</p>
<p>That being said, children can have inclinations towards homosexuality for many reasons. Many homosexuals I have met for example were sexually molested as children. They could have also lacked any type of a father figure in their life. One must also remember that there is a real enemy out there (Satan) who works day and night to keep people away from God and in bondage to some type of sin.</p>
<p>So Jeff, to succumb to the idea that your son maybe should have been born a daughter instead of a son is just wrong thinking. There can be so many other reasons for your son&#8217;s homosexuality besides the &#8220;I was born gay&#8221; argument which I think I have demonstrated pretty well in the original post above is faulty thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why then would me being a christian, my parents, granparents also, then me having a son that is gay told my wife that he knew he was different at the age of 6-7. So that must mean God attacked a 6 yr old for his sin your saying. I&#039;ve changed my stand about why people are gay. Children are born every day with missing limbs, diseases, exc. So why cant a child be born with a male body, but female cromizones. Fact, they can. Your whole thing about being gay is Gods judgment on children that dont know the difference then at 6-7 trs old. Your not the JUDGE of this subject. When you have no clue. Let GOD be the JUDGE and stop attacking some thing you know nothing about. Unless your a witness to it 1st hand. Besides my son loves the LORD and dont know why he has these fillings and knows hes different. So GOD attacks 6 yr olds now right. You need to do better reasearch on this before GOD judges you and cause people to fall away because of your accusations you know nothing about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why then would me being a christian, my parents, granparents also, then me having a son that is gay told my wife that he knew he was different at the age of 6-7. So that must mean God attacked a 6 yr old for his sin your saying. I&#8217;ve changed my stand about why people are gay. Children are born every day with missing limbs, diseases, exc. So why cant a child be born with a male body, but female cromizones. Fact, they can. Your whole thing about being gay is Gods judgment on children that dont know the difference then at 6-7 trs old. Your not the JUDGE of this subject. When you have no clue. Let GOD be the JUDGE and stop attacking some thing you know nothing about. Unless your a witness to it 1st hand. Besides my son loves the LORD and dont know why he has these fillings and knows hes different. So GOD attacks 6 yr olds now right. You need to do better reasearch on this before GOD judges you and cause people to fall away because of your accusations you know nothing about.</p>
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		<title>By: Marek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, thanks for the post. The point of homosexuals not being able to procreate is an excellent  argument that homosexuality is at best un-natural, if not perverted. Let me answer Korinthian’s question he posed: “ … Also consider that they might have been thinking quite seriously whether a homosexual will get into heaven (any opinions on that one?). … “

Dear Korinthian, if you care about the homosexual people you would tell them the truth if you knew it. As a forgiven sinner myself and a Christian, the true Word of God tells us the homosexuals will not get into heaven, just like you and I will not get into heaven unless we repent and accept Jesus’ sacrifice for our sins. 

1 Corinthian 6:9 “Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders.”  

The good news is that God loves all people. “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, Or his only begotten Son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life – John 3:16.”

In the court of law if a person is found guilty s/he needs to pay to redeem themselves. In God’s eyes we all are guilty of sin, because we all have sinned (Rom 3:10). On the Judgment Day we all deserve to pay for our sins by going to Hell. However God loved us and HE provided to pay for our sins and settle the penalty that His holiness demands for sin – death of Jesus Christ on the cross. We need to believe and accept it, repent and turn from our sins by living as God’s children, not perfect, but forgiven. To deny this is to deny that there is a God and that the Bible is His inspired word.

As a forgiven sinner, I am obligated to tell other sinners where to find forgiveness and redemption of sins, including the homosexuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, thanks for the post. The point of homosexuals not being able to procreate is an excellent  argument that homosexuality is at best un-natural, if not perverted. Let me answer Korinthian’s question he posed: “ … Also consider that they might have been thinking quite seriously whether a homosexual will get into heaven (any opinions on that one?). … “</p>
<p>Dear Korinthian, if you care about the homosexual people you would tell them the truth if you knew it. As a forgiven sinner myself and a Christian, the true Word of God tells us the homosexuals will not get into heaven, just like you and I will not get into heaven unless we repent and accept Jesus’ sacrifice for our sins. </p>
<p>1 Corinthian 6:9 “Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders.”  </p>
<p>The good news is that God loves all people. “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, Or his only begotten Son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life – John 3:16.”</p>
<p>In the court of law if a person is found guilty s/he needs to pay to redeem themselves. In God’s eyes we all are guilty of sin, because we all have sinned (Rom 3:10). On the Judgment Day we all deserve to pay for our sins by going to Hell. However God loved us and HE provided to pay for our sins and settle the penalty that His holiness demands for sin – death of Jesus Christ on the cross. We need to believe and accept it, repent and turn from our sins by living as God’s children, not perfect, but forgiven. To deny this is to deny that there is a God and that the Bible is His inspired word.</p>
<p>As a forgiven sinner, I am obligated to tell other sinners where to find forgiveness and redemption of sins, including the homosexuals.</p>
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